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some times it is the correct course of action. Yes, hitting back can teach to not hit. aren't born with the knowledge of what hurts others. It is learned. Think about it, when go through the biting stage, what is the best advice? Bit them back to show them that it hurts. Spankings are not evil. Kept my ass in line and probably yours, too. Obviously, this isn't going to work % of the time, and certainly, not every method works on every, but please show me one that does? That is why we have several methods, to punish accordingly. Spanking are not always the answer, but sometimes it is. I get tired of people demonizing discipline. You have to take each situation and person into account. Lack of discipline is the cause of of our problems. have always been little pains in our ass on occasion, but at least parents used to have backbones to tell them when they were being inappropriate without worrying that some hugs and bunnies person that has no reports them to services because they spanked their in public. on a side note my learned not to hit in two different, but similar ways. One, I showed her that it hurt and I put her in martial arts, which gives her a outlet for extra negative energy and teaches when it is appropriate to use force instead of words. So, I hit her back and showed her the right time and way to hit. Worked like a charm. How can you expect to teach a when they do NOT understand the consequences of their actions? Like hitting hurts?

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